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BETTER DEVILS

Legendary / Kinetic / Hand Cannon

Angels can't help you here.

Source: Complete Crucible matches and earn rank-up packages from Lord Shaxx.

Archetype

Adaptive Frame

Adaptive Frame

A well-rounded grip, reliable and sturdy.

Stats

Impact
84
Range
40
Damage Falloff  
Stability
45
Handling
43
Reload Speed
40
Reload Time  
Aim Assistance
78
Inventory Size
50
Zoom
14
Airborne Effectiveness
10
Recoil
88
Rounds Per Minute 140
Magazine 10
Selected Perks
Popularity: Overall Select 4 perks to see their popularity.  
Popularity: Perks  
Popularity: Trait Combo  
Popularity: MW Bonus  
Credits

Perk Playground

Curated Roll

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Random Rolls

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Item has recommended perks from trusted community theorycrafters. Learn more      Hide Recommendations
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TIP: Theorycrafter Recommendations

The blue/red/gold icons & glows below are Theorycrafter Recommendations. They are the perks that trusted community theorycrafters like for this weapon and can disagree with what is most popular. The colors indicate the game mode for which they prefer the perk.
Color Icon Game Mode
Blue PVE
Red PVP
Gold PVE & PVP
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Popular Trait Combos

This weapon can be crafted or enhanced. Enhanced and normal perks are combined in the stats below.
Rapid Hit
+ Explosive Payload
7.71% of Rolls
Slice
+ Hatchling
4.43% of Rolls
Slice
+ Explosive Payload
4.43% of Rolls
Moving Target
+ Explosive Payload
4.18% of Rolls
Moving Target
+ Opening Shot
3.1% of Rolls
Rapid Hit
+ Opening Shot
2.89% of Rolls
Reconstruction
+ Explosive Payload
2.83% of Rolls
Rangefinder
+ Kill Clip
1.96% of Rolls

Popular Individual Perks

Based on 96.9K+ copies of this weapon, these are the most frequently equipped perks.
This weapon can be crafted or enhanced. Enhanced and normal perks are combined in the stats below.
  • 16.7%
     
  • 15.0%
     
  • 12.9%
     
  • 12.2%
     
  • 11.9%
     
  • 10.9%
     
  • 9.0%
     
  • 7.5%
     
  • 3.4%
     
  • 34.1%
     
  • 17.9%
     
  • 16.4%
     
  • 9.6%
     
  • 8.4%
     
  • 8.2%
     
  • 5.2%
     
  • 17.4%
     
  • 12.5%
     
  • 12.1%
     
  • 11.6%
     
  • 8.8%
     
  • 8.3%
     
  • 8.0%
     
  • 5.6%
     
  • 5.2%
     
  • 3.4%
     
  • 3.4%
     
  • 3.1%
     
  • 25.3%
     
  • 12.9%
     
  • 10.3%
     
  • 9.4%
     
  • 8.5%
     
  • 6.6%
     
  • 5.7%
     
  • 5.0%
     
  • 4.8%
     
  • 4.8%
     
  • 3.4%
     
  • 2.8%
     
  • 0.0%
     
  • 72.8%
     
  • 27.1%
     

Masterwork Popularity

Based on 97.8K+ copies of this weapon, these are the most frequently equipped masterworks:
Of those 97.8K+ copies, 8.5K+ (8.6%) were fully masterworked.
Reload Speed
21.9% of Rolls
Handling
22.5% of Rolls
Stability
23.7% of Rolls
Range
31.6% of Rolls

Mod Popularity

Based on 43.1K+ copies of this weapon with a mod equipped, these are the 8 most frequently used:
Backup Mag
38.2% of Rolls
Ballistics
15.3% of Rolls
Targeting Adjuster
12.9% of Rolls
Counterbalance Stock
11.3% of Rolls
Icarus Grip
4.8% of Rolls
Tactical
3.4% of Rolls
Quick Access Sling
2.5% of Rolls
Heavy Ammo Finder Enhancement
2.1% of Rolls

Your Rolls

TIP: New Season & Popularity Ranks

It's a new season! Popularity ranks can change rapidly at the start of a new season, especially on new weapons.

Be careful jumping to conclusions for a week or so as the meta starts to shake out.

TIP: Popularity Ranks

The letters F thru S below are Popularity Ranks. They measure how popular your roll is versus the most popular roll for this weapon among the global community. The most popular roll is ranked S+. The least popular is ranked F-. Popular doesn't necessarily mean "good"; unpopular doesn't necessarily mean "bad". Use what you enjoy!

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TIP: Theorycrafter Recommendations

The blue/red/gold icons & glows below are Theorycrafter Recommendations. They are the perks that trusted community theorycrafters like for this weapon and can disagree with what is most popular. The colors indicate the game mode for which they prefer the perk.
Color Icon Game Mode
Blue PVE
Red PVP
Gold PVE & PVP
Learn More

TIP: API Perk Swap

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I logged in and this is my first and only comment on here...

She's as beautiful as the day I lost her. I still have a Year 1 day 1 drop (you know - the 3 columns only with 3 different barrels/sights and 2 mag perks whilst the 3rd column was set). So many hand cannons have used this framework but they are all pale imitations in my eyes. Now then, nostalgia gushing aside:

Arrowhead Brake, Accurized Rounds, Rapid-Hit, Explosive Payload just the same as my roll from Forsaken is my go to for PvP.
PvE I feel like running Enlightened Action and Hatchling will be a fun way to run, what with the amount of shenanigans Threadlings builds can get up to. Cut loose and go wild Guardians, enjoy this blast from from the past (2017).
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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Better the Devil you know... except you don't know this gun at all because oh my various gods that is a lot of perks.

Better Devils, much like Origin Story for the Vanguard, is this season/episodes "Perks for days" gun of choice for the Crucible. Unlike Origin however, it has some pretty standout new options besides a snazzy new green colour for its bullets. Reconstruction is notable, especially since Better Devils (like probably every gun this season that isn't straight up craftable) can be enhanced, only further boosting its overflow capability. Slice is a solid option for nerfing enemy damage by a decent amount, and new perk Air Trigger rewards airborne accuracy but hurts aim assist. Fourth Column meanwhile doesn't have anything new, unless you count Deconstruct being on a Hand Cannon.

As for other rolls, there's something for everyone. Rapid Hit, Reconstruction, Pugilist and Demolitionist can pair with Adrenaline Junkie, Swashbuckler, Frenzy, Hatchling and One for All in PvE. In PvP, classic choices like Rapid Hit, Moving Target, and Perpetual Motion can be ran alongside Opening Shot, Kill Clip, Explosive Payload, Zen Moment, and Elemental Capacitor. Pick your perks and pray for the roll you seek, because with a pool this big you WILL be glad new perk-a-holic guns only cost one engram to focus.

Overall, Better Devils is Better than Ever, and even more Devilish. Don't bother praying to RNGesus, because Angels can't help you here. Besides, everyone knows Drifter is the devil. Damn Rat-Man...
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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Managed to snag one with Slice/Hatchling for PvE and let me tell you it feels SO good to shoot. I don't know what secret sauce it has but even with my minimum range roll I don't miss a crit, threadling spawned on every shot. Could just be the Nadir origin trait but whatever it is I'm in love, absolutely gonna farm for the 5/5 when I hit 4 resets.

For me the god roll would be Smallbore/Flared Magwell/Demolitionist/Hatchling/Range MW. I know range isn't nearly as important in PvE but playing on controller that extra stickiness at longer range really does help with the crits.
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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Might I make a recommendation for a side grade? If you're having trouble with the reload speed (Demo is great, but you'd really have to build into your grenade to take advantage of it), might I suggest Rapid Hit in the third column? Otherwise, the reload speed is unbearable. Even Perpetual Motion doesn't give enough of an increase to make it feel not slow, and having to rely on the Crucible origin trait for a speedy reload sucks. While it's no Slice, Rapid Hit makes the reload nice and quick, and rewards precision hits, which synergizes really well with Hatchling, plus you can get the extra range out of Nadir Focus, too.
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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What kept confidence should of been
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Reply      Report Posted 3 months ago
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My baby is back!
This must have been the gun I used most back when I started playing. (Being one of the only guns to even drop half of the time lol)

I've been using a demo / adrenaline combo for the meantime as I try to get one with demo or enlightened / hatchling or explosive payload.

It feels and sounds as if I never lost it. I got a moving target / opening shot for pvp and it feels really solid to shoot. Greatly recommend getting at least one roll of this gun!
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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My roll:
Smallbore | Chambered Compensator
Accurized Rounds | Flared Magwell
Rapid Hit | Moving Target | Perpetual Motion
Explosive Payload
Range Masterwork

(Yes, this is the best thing that EVER dropped for me, legit a 7/5 roll xD)

What I have selected:
Smallbore
Accurized Rounds
Rapid Hit
Explosive Payload

I chose Smallbore because Better Devils needs all the range and stability it can get, without hurting the other stats too much, this means that Smallbore is best in slot.
I chose Accurized Rounds... because its legit the best and adds range. We all know that.
I chose Rapid Hit due it being best in slot, rapid hit is a go to on many HCs right now. Though when I get bored, I have the best 2 other perks!
I chose Explosive Payload due to the flinch and extra damage with no range falloff, its a go to on many HCs.

TL;DR: I got the 7/5 god roll, the gun is VERY good, get it NOW!
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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In PVE, it has Demo Frenzy, the best perk combination for a primary. In PVP, it has no stats. Pretty good gun overall, definitely loving the Nadir handcannon model. 3.5/5 as a whole. Definitely more of a PVE pick.
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Reply      Report Posted 7 months ago
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Nostalgic hand cannon & a blast from the past,
Loads of amazing perk combinations!
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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Feels absolutely amazing and destroys ngl
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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My precious are back. remeber good old D2 lunch year with you
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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Finally a Strand 140. Better Devils is reborn hard with some amazing rolls for PvE. Rapid Hit/Explosive Payload is always a good time, but you could also go for Demo/Hatchling. Totally worth the grind.
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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its good and i quite enjoin this gun
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Reply      Report Posted 8 months ago
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For PVE, if you like pairing crit shot perks like Hatchling or Headstone or Fire/Dragonfy with Outlaw for super snappy reloads to go with your big booms, Air Trigger is a strong alternative to pair with Hatchling on Better Devils (since Outlaw isn't available). Just do a little bunny hop before you hit reload and you effectively get Outlaw on demand.

Beyond that, as many have pointed out, this thing has a ton of good rolls for PVE and PVP.
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Reply      Report Posted 3 months ago