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Lendário / Kinetic Weapon / Submachine Gun

Temos mil balas e apenas 999 cartuchos. Encontre a intrusa.

Fonte: triunfo "Investigador-Chefe"

Archetype

Armação de Precisão

Armação de Precisão

O padrão de recuo desta arma é mais previsivelmente vertical.

Stats

Impacto
25
Alcance
50
Damage Falloff  
Estabilidade
38
Manuseio
21
Velocidade de recarga
17
Reload Time  
Assistência de mira
52
Capacidade
24
Zoom
14
Eficiência no ar
23
Direção do recuo
91
Disparos por minuto 600
Carregador 29
Selected Perks
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Popularity: Trait Combo  
Popularity: MW Bonus  
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Color Icon Game Mode
Blue PVE
Red PVP
Gold PVE & PVP
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Popular Trait Combos

This weapon can be crafted or enhanced. Enhanced and normal perks are combined in the stats below.
Movimento Contínuo
+ Carregador Mortal
17.03% of Rolls
Movimento Contínuo
+ Lápide
11.29% of Rolls
Ladrão de Tumbas
+ Tapa e Tiro
4.78% of Rolls
Sob Pressão
+ Debulha
4.46% of Rolls
Bis
+ Lápide
4.27% of Rolls
Movimento Contínuo
+ Tapa e Tiro
4.04% of Rolls
Esquentando
+ Lápide
3.81% of Rolls
Esquentando
+ Tapa e Tiro
3.7% of Rolls

Popular Individual Perks

Based on 20.0K+ copies of this weapon, these are the most frequently equipped perks.
Crafted versions of this weapon below Level 10 are excluded.
This weapon can be crafted or enhanced. Enhanced and normal perks are combined in the stats below.
  • 19.3%
     
  • 14.3%
     
  • 12.2%
     
  • 10.0%
     
  • 9.7%
     
  • 9.4%
     
  • 8.9%
     
  • 8.3%
     
  • 7.6%
     
  • 33.1%
     
  • 15.1%
     
  • 12.1%
     
  • 9.9%
     
  • 9.4%
     
  • 8.2%
     
  • 7.9%
     
  • 3.9%
     
  • 36.2%
     
  • 15.8%
     
  • 13.8%
     
  • 13.3%
     
  • 12.9%
     
  • 7.6%
     
  • 29.7%
     
  • 26.2%
     
  • 17.5%
     
  • 12.5%
     
  • 8.1%
     
  • 5.8%
     
  • 100.0%
     

Masterwork Popularity

Based on 17.9K+ copies of this weapon, these are the most frequently equipped masterworks:
Of those 17.9K+ copies, 1.5K+ (8.3%) were fully masterworked.
Alcance
29.6% of Rolls
Manuseio
26.2% of Rolls
Velocidade de recarga
24.7% of Rolls
Estabilidade
19.3% of Rolls

Mod Popularity

Based on 9.8K+ copies of this weapon with a mod equipped, these are the 8 most frequently used:
Carregador de Emergência
39.7% of Rolls
Contrabalanço de Coronha
16.0% of Rolls
Ajustador de Mira
12.0% of Rolls
Balística
8.1% of Rolls
Tático
6.0% of Rolls
Cabo de Ícaro
4.3% of Rolls
Bandoleira de Acesso Rápido
2.8% of Rolls
Cabo Livre
2.4% of Rolls

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TIP: Popularity Ranks

The letters F thru S below are Popularity Ranks. They measure how popular your roll is versus the most popular roll for this weapon among the global community. The most popular roll is ranked S+. The least popular is ranked F-. Popular doesn't necessarily mean "good"; unpopular doesn't necessarily mean "bad". Use what you enjoy!

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TIP: Theorycrafter Recommendations

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Red PVP
Gold PVE & PVP
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Season 16 Icon
28
I want to like this gun, but it sucks. Imagine you break up your relationship with Shayura, and you start dating this smg. The whole time you are trying to convince yourself that you dont miss Shayura.
28
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
Season 17 Icon
20
That sounds like a Nightmare…
20
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
Season 19 Icon
11
A Forensic Nightmare if you will?
11
Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
Season 16 Icon
17
simply the fact that its an smg with headstone puts it sky high in terms of pve and I love it there. Unfortunately the 13 zoom totally nueters it in pvp and its near unusable especially compared to other 600 rpms like shayuras wrath. The zoom balancing on smg's cannot come soon enough.
17
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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9
For pve, this gun is great. It has a bunch of good options and it's craftable so it's easy access.

Pvp is another story. I have a crafted roll with Arrowhead/Ricochet Rounds/PM/Killclip with the range stat bonus. I want to love this gun so much. It handles smoothly, it's stable, you can get the recoil direction to a perfect 100 with counterbalance mod. Everything about this gun is great. Except for the zoom. 13 zoom. I really want to love this gun. But damn is the zoom so bad. It's the only part of the gun that feels bad and it's so unfortunate that it's such a critical part of the gun. It doesn't matter how good the gun feels and how perfect the roll is if it just doesn't have the zoom to duel. Keep your eyes on this gun. If the zoom changes end up bringing this guns zoom up a bit to compete with Multimach and Shayura's, it's gonna be fantastic. even with just 15 zoom, 2 more than it currently has, this gun would be great. But unfortunately the current 13 zoom holds it back. Keep your eye on it though. This gun has a lot of potentional to be a beast in pvp.
9
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
Season 22 Icon
2
it has 14 zoom now so it is a lot better in pvp
2
Reply      Report Posted a year ago
Season 19 Icon
9
People need to take a second look at this weapon. I'm not a PVP player so I can't give an assessment there, but recent buffs have made it viable in PVE.

So let's start with the roll I gravitated towards:
Chambered Compensator - Flared Magwell - Enhanced Encore - Enhanced Headstone - Ranged Masterwork

Why this roll?

There are currently only four weapons that can roll with both encore and headstone. Of those four weapons, only two are craftable. Forensic Nightmare is one of those weapons, and I think it makes the best use of that roll. Encore works really well with headstone on weapons that lack stability. That means on a weapon that's already kinda stable, like Forensic Nightmare, it turns the weapon into a laser and makes proccing headstone very easy. Encore used to be this esoteric perk that buffed range or stabilty depending on how you killed enemies. It was weird. It was bad. No one liked it. Now it's buffed, and it's arguably one of the best precision buffs in the game. For merely killing enemies with the weapon you get a buff to stability, range, and accuracy all at the same time. That buff stacks up to 4 times and lasts for 7 seconds. You get 2 stacks for precision kills and 1 stack for body shot kills. The buff refreshes upon each kill kind of like rampage. At 4 stacks you get 20 Range, 32 stability, and an improved accuracy cone. I personally think this is better than perpetual motion. You lose out on reload and handling, but I personally find the range more valuable. Plus you aren't penalized for standing still for a couple of seconds. The encore buff on the roll I suggested means you are consistently running around with an 80 range/92 stability SMG that's incredibly accurate and that has perfect recoil thanks to chambered compensator. The shooting experience is truly excellent. Forensic Nightmare also got a buff to its zoom that pushes out the range and improves accuracy further. Since it's an SMG, Forensic Nightmare has decent room-clearing potential, and that room-clearing potential is only enhanced by headstone. The way headstone synergizes with the Stasis subclass can increase damage, survivability, and grenade regeneration. On top of all of that, this weapon debuffs target's damage by 10% for 5s after a few hits.

It's a very good gun that excels in PVE provided you are on a Stasis subclass.
9
Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
Season 18 Icon
4
Man, the only "nightmare" seen here is that this precision frame somehow has less range than lightweights and aggresives... bungie, why?

It's a shame since I really like the gun model, and it shades really well. There are way better options for PVE too.
4
Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
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1
Use Enhanced Encore Enhanced headstone. Enh. Encore grants stacks of stability, range and precision for each mob you kill and Enh. Headstone grans more passive stability.
This weapons on my Titan stasis with Cadmus helmet wreaks everything in GM nightfalls.
1
Reply      Report Posted a year ago
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3
not many weapons roll with thresh and even less can be crafted to pick enhanced thresh.
1.33-2% super energy per kill sounds kinda nice. if you pair this with a stasis build and dmg increase FOM + HEF this gun could be a decent primary smg that fills your super lightningfast. i will definately try it. if i add Energy Converter mod, i will have a super generator build
3
Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
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3
Low recoil easy to use and pretty good perks, I like this thing a lot.
3
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
Season 21 Icon
2
Somehow this has managed to become one of my highest kill weapons as well as being my highest level crafted weapon.
The gun should suck but DAMN, I can't stop using it.
Got it crafted with headstone, graverobber and it just works like a dream on any of my titan builds. Freeze an enemy, punch em and boom refills your mag, goated weapon.
This gun really does suck tho so maybe don't use it, I have no idea why mine is level 160
2
Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
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2
its probably because of the scope
its just so clean that i want it on every smg
2
Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
Season 23 Icon
1
you love it so much that you rated it 1 star?
1
Reply      Report Posted a year ago
Season 16 Icon
2
It's alright, it works, it is a 600 rpm with kill clip, it isn't the next antiope or shyura, it's... fine
trait combo are alright, but zoom is really lacking, you arent going to get a lot of range from the gun.
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Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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2
Thanks to Rapacious Appetite and Blood Feud, this gun is completely pointless.
2
Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
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1
With Season 19 buffing Forensic Nightmare's zoom to 14, it can finally compete with other Stasis SMGs instead of being completely outclassed.

My personal recommendation is Smallbore/Flared/Encore or Perpetual Motion/Headstone with a Range Masterwork. This gives you a base range of 20 1/2 meters, good stability, and decent reload speed. The reworked Encore lets you push that range close to 22 meters with a single precision kill, while Perpetual Motion helps with the reload speed and brings up the low handling. Lots of fun on a Stasis build to create crystals, but there continue to be better, more generic options for other characters.
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Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
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1
GREAT for Stasis Warlock builds with Headstone in PVE
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Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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0
Enhanced Perpetual Motion Make it Viable for PVE. I use headstone for maximum potential ads clears. Zoom are meh for PvP
0
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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0
Really good gun to use, rocking it with a encore and swashbuckler roll. Hopefully by the time I get the enhanced perks for these rolls. This gun will go hard, but for now the funnelweb dominates
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Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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0
Big fan of headstone in PvE, especially since it's on an SMG. Gun I will be taking into WF raid.
0
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
Season 17 Icon
0
For me the 3rd row perks are just bad.
0
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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0
this gun is pretty decent for pve especially with arc 3.0, if you have a melee build then swash and grave robber is pretty nice
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Reply      Report Posted 2 years ago
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0
mid AF , BUT having headstone makes it a good choice if u like headstone
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Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
Season 16 Icon
0
Haven't tried for pvp, but its a super solid gun in pve. Getting that pm/hs combo is somewhat of a chore, but its solid throughout the process. If you're a warlock and have a decent stasis build with the osmiomancy gloves, its amazing add clear. Range is definitely its weakpoint though, made up by the fact its a craftable weapon. If smg's receive a range rework/buff, it would definitely be pretty top tier.
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Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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0
Excelent weapon, kill clip is brutal in This weapon
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Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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0
Isolated I'd say this is a pretty fun weapon. I started with a bad roll but it could still handle some stuff and a better roll easily did more, however it's really perk reliant (Yes that applies to all weapons however I feel it's nominal stats are below average). There's no harm in doing PvE provided it's not above the rating of an adept/hero Nightfall with it but I'd NEVER dare take this into PvP. Do take with a grain of salt having this being compared to Riskrunner and Funnelweb
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Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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0
After the Encore changes, this SMG is an amazing little Crucible sweeper. Encore Kill Clip will clean up lobbies, the sight is clean, and being craftable means you can make it perfect. Get one, give it a try, you won't be disappointed.
PvE, it's fine. Accessible little craftable Headstone SMG.
This gun is worth your time now.
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Reply      Report Posted a year ago
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It's a bad weapon, it's only advantage is being the only stasis smg in the game so far but in PvE I wouldn't bring it unless I specifically needed a stasis smg for my build and champions, if not then I do not see a reason to use it over multimach or a Enyo-d. In PvP it's even worst it's range is so limited that is almost useless there.
-1
Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago
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for general gameplay in pve, i love this, have a prep motion headstone role and it is really nice. for more difficult content with match game osteo is better imo, because of the poison tick damage increasing, and the fact that the poison can spread with rapid headshots or poison kill (happens more often than you would think in master/legend content)

i am trying to get a prep motion / kill clip role for pvp (sadly i dont have the pattern) i think it might be decent, but funnelweb or multimach is most likely better in all aspects for pvp
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Reply      Report Posted 3 years ago