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전설 / 에너지 무기 / Hand Cannon

네가 직접 볼 수만 있다면. 하지만 네겐 눈이 없지. 가장 희미한 감각도 살아남지 못하지…

출처: 소원의 시즌 활동

Archetype

정밀 프레임

정밀 프레임

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Stats

충격
78
사거리
34
Damage Falloff  
안정성
55
조작성
26
재장전 속도
53
Reload Time  
조준 지원
67
소지품 크기
54
확대/축소
14
공중 효율
10
반동 방향
97
분당 발사 수 180
탄창 12
Selected Perks
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TIP: Theorycrafter Recommendations

The blue/red/gold icons & glows below are Theorycrafter Recommendations. They are the perks that trusted community theorycrafters like for this weapon and can disagree with what is most popular. The colors indicate the game mode for which they prefer the perk.
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Red PVP
Gold PVE & PVP
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Popular Trait Combos

This weapon can be crafted or enhanced. Enhanced and normal perks are combined in the stats below.
폭파 전문가
+ 원천
9.62% of Rolls
신속 발사
+ 살상 탄창
9.57% of Rolls
폭파 전문가
+ 황금 트라이콘
7.87% of Rolls
접근 회피
+ 살상 탄창
7.54% of Rolls
격퇴 버팀대
+ 황금 트라이콘
4.65% of Rolls
폭파 전문가
+ 살상 탄창
4.58% of Rolls
신속 발사
+ 황금 트라이콘
3.65% of Rolls
접근 회피
+ 황금 트라이콘
3.16% of Rolls

Popular Individual Perks

Based on 14.1K+ copies of this weapon, these are the most frequently equipped perks.
Crafted versions of this weapon below Level 10 are excluded.
This weapon can be crafted or enhanced. Enhanced and normal perks are combined in the stats below.
  • 16.8%
     
  • 13.7%
     
  • 13.3%
     
  • 11.3%
     
  • 11.1%
     
  • 11.0%
     
  • 10.1%
     
  • 8.0%
     
  • 4.2%
     
  • 37.6%
     
  • 16.2%
     
  • 15.1%
     
  • 10.5%
     
  • 7.8%
     
  • 7.3%
     
  • 5.2%
     
  • 25.2%
     
  • 19.0%
     
  • 15.4%
     
  • 14.2%
     
  • 10.1%
     
  • 8.1%
     
  • 7.5%
     
  • 26.2%
     
  • 22.4%
     
  • 18.3%
     
  • 10.4%
     
  • 8.1%
     
  • 7.2%
     
  • 6.4%
     
  • 0.7%
     
  • 100.0%
     

Masterwork Popularity

Based on 13.4K+ copies of this weapon, these are the most frequently equipped masterworks:
Of those 13.4K+ copies, 1.0K+ (8.1%) were fully masterworked.
사거리
41.6% of Rolls
재장전 속도
21.6% of Rolls
조작성
18.8% of Rolls
안정성
17.8% of Rolls

Mod Popularity

Based on 5.9K+ copies of this weapon with a mod equipped, these are the 8 most frequently used:
예비 탄창
49.1% of Rolls
조준 조정기
15.4% of Rolls
탄도학
8.5% of Rolls
상쇄 개머리판
4.4% of Rolls
완전 자동 개량
3.9% of Rolls
전술
3.1% of Rolls
자유형 손잡이
2.9% of Rolls
빠른 접근 슬링
2.6% of Rolls

Your Rolls

TIP: Popularity Ranks

The letters F thru S below are Popularity Ranks. They measure how popular your roll is versus the most popular roll for this weapon among the global community. The most popular roll is ranked S+. The least popular is ranked F-. Popular doesn't necessarily mean "good"; unpopular doesn't necessarily mean "bad". Use what you enjoy!

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TIP: Theorycrafter Recommendations

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Color Icon Game Mode
Blue PVE
Red PVP
Gold PVE & PVP
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If I had a nickel for every time a Season of the Wish weapon had an identical frame and element to a Crotas End weapon, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but its weird it happened twice.

Optative, however, at least has the excuse of always having been a Void precision Hand Cannon. Bungie rarely changes the element of a reprised energy weapon (Necrochasm being the biggest outlier due to needing to fit the Weapon of Sorrows kinetic archetype poison). Regardless, Optative has two main competitors in the Void 180 sphere - Word of Crota and the Ikelos_HC_V1.0.3. So lets compare. Stats are in the order of Optative/Word/Ikelos.

Range 34/31/32; Stability 55/57/55. Handling 26/36/33. Reload 53/57/33. Aim Assistance 67/78/75. Airborne 10/20/14. Zoom all share the same stat of 14. And Recoil 97/100/91. Overall, Optative has slightly better Range and is worst off in Handling, Aim Assist, and AE. Word of Crota, as a raid weapon, takes home the most wins with the best Stability, Handling, Aim Assist, AE, and Recoil, yet loses in Range. Ikelos sits middle of the road in all categories except its horrid base reload. Overall - not quite enough alone to make the decision for you, so lets look at what Optative has to offer perk-wise.

For PvE, Optative has Repulsor Brace, Demolitionist, Keep Away, Rapid Hit and Attrition Orbs in column 3, and Under-Over, Wellspring, Kill Clip, Deconstruct and Golden Tricorn in column 4. By comparison, Ikelos can pair Repulsor with reload perks, while Word can pair it with Destabilizing Rounds. Word also has a vastly superior suite of damage boosting perks (in fact all but Destabilizing are damage perks) but relies on Subsistence or Enlightened Action for reload perks. Ikelos also has Subsistence but can also use Rapid Hit and Stats for All, also has better damage perks, and access to Adaptive Munitions.

In short, if you want to take advantage of what makes Optative unique compared to its contemporaries, you either want to build into ability regen using its Demolitionist/Attrition Orbs + Wellspring combo, or just pair up its more unique perk combos to your liking.

HOWEVER... one area Optative arguably entirely outclasses its peers is in PvP. Not only is Nano-Munitions a solid PvP Trait, building an emergency reload when empty rather than auto-loading on Shield Break like Warminds Arsenal, but it has significantly more PvP applicable perks. Ikelos has absolutely terrible PvP offerings and Word isn't much better, with Killing Wind being the most obvious one. Optative, meanwhile, packs Hip Fire Grip, Keep Away, and Rapid Hit in Column 3, and Offhand Strike, Kill Clip, and Zen Moment in column 4. Precisions already have a solid hipfire, so if you wanted to become a hipfire god, Hip Fire Grip + Offhand Strike is for you. Otherwise, Zen Moment vs Kill Clip is a case of consistency vs Lethality. Kill Clip lowers your TTK, while Zen Moment reduces your recoil, grants flinch resistance, and caps out in just 3 shots on a Hand Cannon. Keep Away offers excellent buffs in PvP, and Rapid Hit is also solid.

All in all, Optative in PvE is ultimately going to depend on if you like what it has to offer versus its older Warmind and Hive brothers. But this Vex Machina entirely outdoes them in PvP viability, so if you like 180s in Crucible, this is for you.
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Golden Tricorn stands out in column 4 for both pve/pvp as it also pushes the TTK in pvp to a 3-tap after kill. It might not be the most exciting roll, but Demo/Tricorn is a workhorse option for everything short of master/GM content.
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Word of Crota and Oversoul Edict's element wasn't changed. They were void and arc element respectively. Maybe you're thinking of Fang of Ir Yut, which was changed. It went from an arc precision scout rifle to a rapid fire strand scour rifle which is.. quite a change.

I'm probably going to craft Optative with Attrition Orbs since that perk is usually a 4th column perk (at least on the weapons I've gotten it on so far). I have a Parbellum 900rpm solar SMG with rewind rounds + attrition orbs, and it creates 2 orbs per magazine (not including syphon mods), while scorching enemies on hit AND causing ignitions on precision kills (all due to the seasonal artifact) and I've been liking it MUCH more than Calus Mini Tool.

I wanna see what kind of shenanigans Attrition Orbs on Optative can do, so I'll be crafting it with that
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A nice 180 for Gyrfalcon users. Outclassed by Word of Crota but a good pickup for non-raiders.

PVE: Since the handcannon buffs 180 have become a good sleeper pick; they do amongst the best DPS of legendary weapons and are very easy to use (especially on controller). They used to be terrible but that's no longer the case.

My PVE perk picks:
Slot 1: Smallbore
Slot 2: Tac Mag or Appended
Perk 1: Repulsor Brace or Demo
Perk 2: Golden Tricorn
Frame: to taste but I prefer reload or range.
Mod: I prefer backup mag for the considerable boost in rounds (+ 4)
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I use Void Warlock with Contraverse more than any other class/subclass. Optative with Demolitionist and Golden Tricorn is one of, if not the best weapons I've ever used with this build. The combination of Demo, Devour and Contraverse's intrinsic grenade regen means I simply do not run out of grenade energy ever, meaning I can keep Tricorn active basically permanently, meaning a permanent 50% increase to damage. Combined with Echo of Instability for volatile rounds from grenade kills, you have one of the most perfectly suited weapons for a build of all time. In Season of the Wish, you have a choice between using Unstoppable Hand Cannon from the artefact, or unselecting it and using it for Anti-Barrier, making the most of Volatile Rounds. I would say it's better suited for Legend content rather than Master/GM, but it is absolutely still useable in some GM situations, like Corrupted with the hordes of weaker enemies and copious amounts of Void Shields.

I love Optative. Craft it, use it, love it.
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The Undying weapons had an interesting aesthetic. Leafy overgrown weapons as if they came straight out of the Black Garden? Yes, please!

Which brings us to this 180 rpm Void Handcannon, Optative. Smallbore/Accurized Rounds/Keep Away/Kill Clip. Slap Range MW. I have never had so much fun with a 180 rpm energy handcannon since this thing came back with a refreshed perk pool. Give it a go if you can craft it!
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i like it its pretty good
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I've been using fullbore, accurized, hipfire grip and offhand strike in pvp and it's mayyyyybe a little too much fun using a more accurate last word on mouse and keyboard. It's the closest I've got to controller last word
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The 180 is pretty good ngl. But I do think it is better in PVP than PVE due to perk options.
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